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Post by dave on Jan 8, 2016 16:34:17 GMT
18th AUG.1962
my first airshow, c/n where known except civil light...
VM406 AVRO ANSON C.19 c/n 12 GROUP COMMUNICATION FLT.
XD826 VICKERS VALIANT BK.1 c/n
XK590 DH.VAMPIRE T.11 c/n "45" .11 c/n 15779 79 "45"
XN404 BRITANNIA C.1 c/n c/n 13452
WE172 CANBERRA PR.3 c/n R.3 c/n 71217
XK669 COMET C.2 c/n 6024
XM144 E.E. LIGHTNING F.1 c/n 95040 F.1 J c/n 95040
XM142 E.E LIIGHTNING F.1 c/n F.1 B c/n 95045
XM164 E.E LIGHTNING F.1 c/n 95045
XM165 E.E LIGHTNING F.1 c/n F1 F c/n 95046
XM167 E.E LIGHTNING F.1 c/n F.1 C c/n 95048
XM139 E.E LIGHTNING F.1 H c/n 95035
XM141 E.E LIGHTNING F.1 D c/n 95037
XP573 JET PROVEST T.4 49 c/n
XP572 JET PROVEST T.4 48 c/n
XP549 JET PROVEST T.4 40 c/n
XP550 JET PROVEST T.4 41 c/n
XP553 JET PROVEST T.4 44 c/n
HB-UTH BU-133 c/n 51
D-GISA PA.23-150 c/n 23-985
F-BBVF STAMPF SV.4A c/n 117
CF-TFM c/n 138
CF-TFK c/n 135
CF-TFT c/n 144
CF-TFO c/n 129
G-AOVZ G-AELO G-AOTX G-ANHW G-ALZG G-AOEH
G-AIEK G-APXP G-AHBM G-APZZ G-ARDY G-AHCL
G-AKNW G-AOFO G-ARAV G-ARNY G-AGWT G-ARYJ
G-ARRI G-APOZ G-AHLI G-ARFY G-ARAZ G-ARGP
G-ANLH G-ARSX G-ANFU G-ANLR G-AOTM G-AIDN
G-APZL G-ARKG G-AKKH G-ADUZ G-AHKY G-AROZ
G-ARJO G-AKEM G-APAF G-AKIR G-AOEJ G-AIUE
G-APZY G-AGXB G-AOTX G-AGTX G-AIKE G-AOAA
G-ARFS G-AJZS G-AFGI G-AJPI G-AOAA G-ANMZ
G-ANWO G-AAZP G-APWR G-AIED G-ALFX G-ANEL
G-AILL G-ALBD G-AROL G-ARNR G-ACDC G-ANSM
G-AGXN G-AMGC G-AHSW G-ARTF G-ARYN G-ANHI
G-AOFJ G-ANTE G-ARRM G-APNZ G-ARFL G-AJHU
G-AHWV G-AHGO G-AMTA G-ARNZ G-ANZZ G-ARUL
G-AHGA G-ARXD G-ASAN G-ARHZ G-AHGZ G-ALFX
G-APCL G-APAD G-APRH G-ARRZ G-AFOZ
G-APAO G-ARBO G-AIES G-ARIZ G-ABVE
G-ADKK G-ARWP G-ARYZ G-ADGP G-AEUJ
0-90383------KB.50J
40553---------RB-66B
41444--------F-101A
41459--------F-101A
41471--------F-101A
62979--------F-100D
62967--------F-100D
?--------F-100D
any info on ? F.100D and the 6 Pat. de France Mysteres flying or any corrections welcomed...
if ok more to follow.
regards, dave...
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Post by graham on Jan 8, 2016 17:32:08 GMT
Great old log Dave, really interesting, thanks very much for posting it.
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Post by zz on Jan 8, 2016 19:11:38 GMT
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Post by dave on Jan 8, 2016 22:43:56 GMT
Joe Baugher's USAF serials states 56-2971 crashed 2.5 miles from Duxford on 19/6/61. Also heard it was 53-4018 but this was a F.86D...
regards,
dave...
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Post by davebasing on Jan 8, 2016 23:11:48 GMT
Hi Dave - I was at the Coventry show on that day so will dig out the log over the weekend. I have serials for the Patrouille but from memory one is rather dubious (even though it was reported elsewhere at the time) as it should in theory have been one of the ones built for Israel. I also recall reading a Flying Enterprise Argonaut that flew over during the day. Didn't need any of the Canadian ones as they were lined up with their colleagues at Gatwick the previous year (have photos of them somewhere which I took at a fog bound Gatwick in 1961). The 3rd F100 was 56-3018, all 3 coming from the 20TFW at Wethersfield. Came across 56-2967 many years later preserved at Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
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Post by dave on Jan 9, 2016 9:39:15 GMT
hi, morning,
thanks that would be great, I got a post from someone who was working at RAF Gaydon and the P de F were in there for the weekend plus a noratlas support, but he did not know which flew on the Saturday. Can you confirm the Canadian's as I had a question about one from another poster,
regards,
dave...
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Post by dave on Jan 9, 2016 10:57:59 GMT
hi, just checking and I,ve seen a report that SE-BDF of TSA cn 43124 a DC.6 overflew but no time given...
regards, dave... |
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Post by davebasing on Jan 10, 2016 11:47:59 GMT
Hi Dave - Log retrieved from the depths of the dungeon. You are right that my memory of the Flying Enterprise was actually a Transair Sweden DC6. I however have it logged as SE-BDH which actually seems more likely since SE-BDF was on lease to the United Nations in Africa throughout 1962 (would have preferred BDF as I didnt need BDH!). Memory (already shown to be dodgy) is that it passed directly overhead routing from behind the crowd line at about 10,000ft during the early afternoon but I also don't have a time. It must have been during the flying display as I do actually remember a lady I was standing next to on the crowd line asking me what type it was as I read it off (I was 13 at the time and didnt normally have much to do with ladies, now I cant remember why I ever did!). The 3rd F100 was as I mentioned. Additions from my log are WL801 'B' 42Sq Shackleton; G-AROS Heron; and since I was still collecting light aircraft in those days - G-ARCV C175; G-AJOC Messenger; G-AHGC & G-AHGD Rapides; G-AOSX Chipmunk; G-APJP & G-AOYU Tiger Moths; G-AMRL Aiglet; F-BDVY & F-BDGI Stampes; HB-UST Aero 131.
There were actually 8 Patrouille Super Mysteres that displayed. I didnt personally read them but was given 218, 244 (which is the one that should be Israeli), 285, 289, 294, 303, 316, 317. A few years ago I was comparing notes with a friend who was there (long before I first met him) who it turned out had exactly the same set of 8. I'd be interested to see what your Gaydon contact had as, if nothing else, 244 looks unlikely.
ZZ mentioned the Scramble report with the wrong F100 serial. With no disrespect to Scramble (I've been a member for years) as they could only post what they received, please treat all early show reports on their site with some caution. Just as one example, their 1961 Farnborough show report has - amongst other errors - a flying Sea Vixen which was on upgrade at Fleetlands at the time, a flying Lightning which was destroyed earlier in the year (clearly assumed from its code which was by then borne by its replacement) plus wrong codes for others, a Scimitar which is out of batch and another that was in store at Tengah at the time. They were of course the days days with no internet, few magazines etc so it not surprising that mis-poles took place. I still remember Fred's Five, the Sea Vixen team which as its name suggests flew 5 aircraft. Halfway through their display on one occasion we realised we had read 7 serials between us!
As a certain member of this group would say "happy days"!
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Post by davebasing on Jan 10, 2016 11:53:11 GMT
Dave - sorry forgot to say that the former Trans Canada aircraft you list were correct. These were the only ones that were brought to Gatwick by Keegan Aviation that subsequently went to Coventry. I'll look out my old b&w photo from Gatwick in 1961.
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Post by dave on Jan 10, 2016 17:28:27 GMT
hi,
the list from Gaydon I'm afraid does not help, they are 278. 285.290. 292. 299. 312. 314. 316. 319...he seems positive with these as he says they past his window when they left on the Monday, the man on flikr quotes 244. 294.
So as you and friend independently have 218. 285. 289. 294. 303. 316. 317. and the doubtful 244? I will take the 7...
thanks for the confirmation of the 4 Canadairs.
As a matter of interest if you want to have a look at the pictures of his note-book( it looks as if he,s re-written it tidily and in order!!! just go to (I'm not on flickr so I searched CVT-wings-flickr Photo Sharing then in the search at top of page enter Coventry Air Day-1962-08-18 which should show the 4 pages.
A question if I may did you go to Farnborough 1962, I have seen a photo of a formation flypast of 9 Sea Vixens in a nine, closely followed by 5 Sea Vixens in a V with 4 Scimitars tucked in behind to make up another nine, I,m trying to sort them out now...I went on the Sunday.
regards,
dave...
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Post by davebasing on Jan 10, 2016 18:46:09 GMT
Dave - Doing some more digging, I think the Gaydon list is more probably correct. All of the Mysteres he lists were recorded with the PdeF around 1961-63 and the PdeF issued a press release in advance of the 1962 season giving the list of pilots & aircraft. It shows the Mystere IVAs (not Supers as I accidently said) allocated to the team as drawn from 278, 285, 290, 292, 297, 298, 299, 300, 312, 314, 316, 317, 318, and 319 which fit with the Gaydon report. Of these only 285,316 & 317 appear on the list I was given all those years ago. I'm prepared to accept that the rest were someone's pure fabrication or bad mis-poles. It seems likely therefore that my friend got a list which originated from the same source. If only we knew which spare stayed on the ground at Gaydon that day!!
I'll dig F'boro '62 out of the dungeon to see what I have. I think I was there on the Sunday as well
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