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Post by graham on Mar 19, 2018 14:30:20 GMT
I've just stared to use PlaneBase and finding it quick and easy to log stuff onto the programme. What I can't figure out is how to make a back up of the files should my PC decide to blow up or get stolen. It's going to take me months to upload everything and the thought that nothing is backed up is a bit worrying. Can anyone who uses PB explain in layman's terms how to back up your files please? Thanks
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Post by rugbyref on Mar 19, 2018 18:58:38 GMT
Graham,
I believe the logs are saved automatically as MS Access files, so if you copy those across to an external drive, you should have your back up copy. I expect someone more knowledgable than me will clarify.
Phil
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Post by Jeff on Mar 19, 2018 21:36:49 GMT
Graham, I believe the logs are saved automatically as MS Access files, so if you copy those across to an external drive, you should have your back up copy. I expect someone more knowledgable than me will clarify. Phil I thought you had the dropbox option sorted mate ? |
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Post by graham on Mar 20, 2018 11:50:42 GMT
Hi Jeff, I thought I did too but I can't find the back up files anywhere.
Phil, many thanks, I'll see if I can find them
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Post by graham on Mar 29, 2018 17:53:24 GMT
Well, after using Planebase for around two weeks ( all of which has been spent logging my fleets into it). I have to say that it's a very comprehensive and user friendly programme. With a week gone, I have uploaded my African, US and British fleets plus US biz jets so far and have managed to upload 8,163 frames without any issues, thanks to some helpful guidance from Jeff who also uses it. I have US civil register, Asia/Far east fleets, Brit civil register, Brit military, Canadian/Central/South American fleets, East and West European fleets. all foreign GA and biz (except US), Irish fleets and civil register, Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Brit historic fleets and the rather daunting US military all to do.
I have absolutely no idea what the final frame tally will be but do estimate that I have at least another 9-10 months work to get everything uploaded
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Post by graham on Apr 15, 2018 17:28:44 GMT
Update, three weeks in, 16,244 frames loaded. I still have about half Brit mil to do plus, all US mil, all other foreign mil, Brit civil register, US civil register. east European fleets and historic world fleets
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Post by rugbyref on Apr 16, 2018 10:52:51 GMT
What’s your current guess at the total number of frames once you have finished loading?
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Post by rugbyref on Apr 16, 2018 10:53:04 GMT
What’s your current guess at the total number of frames once you have finished loading?
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Post by graham on Apr 17, 2018 19:05:00 GMT
Difficult to guess really R R, I have 1000s of frames in old logs from the 70s and 80s that my dear old Mum unearthed about two years ago in a cardboard box at the bottom of a wardrobe. Trouble is, back then, I just listed the reggies without any "seen" date so I will have to use a "one date fits all" for that lot. I'm currently sitting at 18,115
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Post by billsamuels on May 12, 2018 6:45:25 GMT
What’s your current guess at the total number of frames once you have finished loading? Hi RR, I’ve now completed virtually all of my entries, still got some mispoles to sort thru (probably 150-200 Frames), But from when I started spotting as a boy, with quite a few ups and downs along the way, plus 47 year career (now put to rest), I’m only got just shy of 60,000 frames.... When I think back to before ADU, I can remember thinking to myself that I ought to have at least 100,000 Frames in the bag... Which just goes to prove that when I thought I must have been at the front of the queue when god handed out ‘man-hoods’ I was in fact quite a way down the line!!! But at least having it all automated you can now see exactly what you have, very accurately. Best thing I ever did... Bill P.S. Love your report and photos from Australia, my wife and I are going to do Australia/New Zealand next year... So can’t wait for that one... |
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Post by graham on May 12, 2018 17:10:56 GMT
Currently sitting at around 26,000 frames and I still have UK civil register to do plus all foreign ga/biz and all historic airline fleets except USA. I'll never be able to log my early years of spotting UK civil register as all I did was underline them in the CAM. I do know that by 1975 or so I did
n't need many G-A***s but sadly, I have long since mislaid my old CAMS. It's thanks to my Mum that I now have most of my old logs from the 70s as I never used the CAM for anything other than UK ga/fleets, everything else was hand entered into hardback note books
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Post by graham on Jun 4, 2018 6:36:40 GMT
Update - now sitting at just shy of 32,000 frames, I have all UK civil reg to do plus all the old logs that had lain in the bottom of the wardrobe for all those years. During the 80's and 90's I didn't spot as such, but did attend shows so I have most of those to do, albeit most were military shows. At a very rough guess, I'd estimate the final tally will be around 40,000.
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Post by rugbyref on Jun 4, 2018 6:48:24 GMT
What type is the most numerous? B737? I was surprised to see how many B777s I had seen, now well north of 1000!
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Post by graham on Jun 4, 2018 13:25:31 GMT
Yes, 737s without a doubt, the database tells me I've seen..
B737 - 1184
B737NG - 2018
B737Max8 - 24
It's great to just press a button and get the figures
Total 3226
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Post by billsamuels on Jun 4, 2018 18:26:47 GMT
Hi Chaps,
Think mine is the B737 as well, my totals are;
B737 1715
B737NG 2771
B737Max 23
Total 4509
Still got a long way to go, particularly with the Max’s...
Bill
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Post by jerryrowe on Jun 4, 2018 20:36:53 GMT
I am in between you two:
737 1708
737NG 1909
737MAX 18
total 3635
But have not been outside Europe since 2010 apart from 2 days in Dubai, and have not been Stateside since 2001. A single trip to USA would easily net 500 or so.
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Post by graham on Jun 5, 2018 6:49:14 GMT
Very true Jerry, my haul of Southwest 737s back in 2009 was phenomenal, around 350 in 5 days
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Post by graham on Jul 27, 2018 14:24:18 GMT
With five month's logging completed and the end "somewhere in sight", one of the best features of Planebase or I assume any of the similar programmes, is having so much info at the push of a button.
Was looking at my Boeings...
707 - 547
717 - 83
720 - 62
727 - 584
737 - 1307
737NG - 2060
737max - 33
747 - 1013
757 - 676
767 - 571
777 - 970
787 - 411
KC135 - 247
I know some of you guys can blow those totals out of the water but it's just so good to have all that info right at hand
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Post by rugbyref on Jul 28, 2018 8:29:39 GMT
I suspect the differences will reflect the different parts of the country in which we live (and visits to Victorville?)
707. 471
717. 50
720. 47
727. 538
737. 1201
737ng. 1801
max. 22
747. 1102
757. 467
767. 633
777. 1210
787. 450
135. 275
Planebase does make this easy, doesn’t it!
Phil
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Post by graham on Jul 28, 2018 9:38:49 GMT
Hi Phil, yes it's so worth all the effort and the time it takes to load all your logs into the system but once done, it will pretty much render me a "paperless" spotter. I'm lucky that a fair amount of my job entails working from home so it'd been relatively easy to find time most days to do a bit more on PB
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Post by jerryrowe on Jul 28, 2018 19:56:31 GMT
I do not use PlaneBase, but have set up my own spreadsheets which give me instant read outs of totals for each type. I will not bore you with all my figures, but I can beat you both on 707s, 720s, 727s, 737s, 747s, 767s and 777s, in between on 737NG, 757s and 787s but am well behind on 717s and KC135s. Not sure about 737MAX, my system does not count them separately but can think of at least 24. My records go back to 1964 but with some gaps in the 1980s and 1990s when I was more interested in my wife than in spotting!!
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Post by billsamuels on Jul 29, 2018 0:08:37 GMT
I do not use PlaneBase, but have set up my own spreadsheets which give me instant read outs of totals for each type. I will not bore you with all my figures, but I can beat you both on 707s, 720s, 727s, 737s, 747s, 767s and 777s, in between on 737NG, 757s and 787s but am well behind on 717s and KC135s. Not sure about 737MAX, my system does not count them separately but can think of at least 24. My records go back to 1964 but with some gaps in the 1980s and 1990s when I was more interested in my wife than in spotting!! Nice one Jerry. Can you put a log together from your system? Think we’ve all experience some lapses in our hobby over the years, girlfriends/wives, kids and careers all take their toll.... Thankfully, with more time on our hands nowadays we can all spend a bit more time doing what we enjoy. Airplanes! Bill |
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Post by jerryrowe on Jul 29, 2018 8:51:31 GMT
Bill
Yes, by using the “sort” facility I can create a log of frames seen for the first time on a particular date and (for lights but not airliners) at a particular field, but only back to around 1995 when the spreadsheets were first set up. I no longer have any of my paper records, and my military logs prior to 1990 are lost for ever - I lived in Cambridgeshire in the 1970s and made frequent visits to Mildenhall so have probably seen at least 300 KC135s, then moved to Cornwall where C5s and C141s were regular overflights, I had all but a few of the Atlantic fleet of C141s and around 25% of the Pacific fleet, but just a memory!
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Post by rh226 on Jul 29, 2018 10:09:09 GMT
Hi Jerry,
Those lovely Starlifters!! Such a beautiful aircraft in their original MAC scheme. Personally, I thought it a complete outrage when they camouflaged them.
I was lucky enough to see 232 out of the 284 built for the USAF (of which 5 had been w/o by my intense spotting period 1976 - 1985). I never did see the NASA one which routed across the UK whilst I was on holiday.
I, too, never cleared the Atlantic fleet, still needing 2 of the Charleston ones (437MAW), but I did clear the McGuire (438MAW) allocation. Of the Pacific fleet, I cleared the McChord allocation (62MAW).
As you lived up there, I suspect that you actually saw a lot more C-135s (of all sorts) than "at least 300". By the time I gave up in 1985, I had just reached the 500 mark.
Cheers,
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Post by graham on Jul 29, 2018 10:46:54 GMT
Yes, quite true Bill, I had years away from daily spotting although I did attend shows during that period and had a few trans-Atlantic jaunts too. As I mentioned a couple of years ago, my dear old Mum found a load of old logs in the bottom of a wardrobe that I assumed had been long lost. Of course in those pre computer days of paper records, I only ever recorded British Civil register in the CAM and they weren't part of the treasure trove found by my Mum. I know that by the late 70s I didn't need many G-A*** but unfortunately, they will never now form any part of my total frames seen
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Post by davebasing on Jul 29, 2018 17:22:31 GMT
Hi Jerry,
Those lovely Starlifters!! Such a beautiful aircraft in their original MAC scheme. Personally, I thought it a complete outrage when they camouflaged them.
I was lucky enough to see 232 out of the 284 built for the USAF (of which 5 had been w/o by my intense spotting period 1976 - 1985). I never did see the NASA one which routed across the UK whilst I was on holiday.
I, too, never cleared the Atlantic fleet, still needing 2 of the Charleston ones (437MAW), but I did clear the McGuire (438MAW) allocation. Of the Pacific fleet, I cleared the McChord allocation (62MAW).
As you lived up there, I suspect that you actually saw a lot more C-135s (of all sorts) than "at least 300". By the time I gave up in 1985, I had just reached the 500 mark.
Cheers,
Bob Fully agree Bob, the white ones just looked the part. I managed 264 of the 284 Air Force examples but I still have a chance to make 2 more as I need the one preserved at Altus and one of those at Scott. Virtually all the ones I missed were among those written off in accidents, having only seen 7 of those so destroyed. Saw the civil demonstrator (N4141A) at the 1967 Paris show then again as NASA 714 3 years ago at Moffett Field where she is preserved, so there's still a chance for you.  76-eu by dave tompkins, on Flickr |
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Post by rh226 on Jul 29, 2018 18:57:16 GMT
I've seen the two that you still need, Dave. However, I have never been to the States and never will now. So the 21 years of their service that I missed cannot now be recovered.
Lovely picture - and an Altus one at that too (yes, I did see that one).
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Post by graham on Aug 3, 2018 14:23:11 GMT
Well, after six months slog, using every spare minute I've had, I've finally finished entering everything onto PlaneBase. It's a satisfying feeling to have everything completed and so much information at the touch of a button. The last few logs I entered were from Stateside trips in the distant past so it's boosted up the numbers for 727s, 737s and 757s. Just for fun, here are the final stats for the "modern" airliners
BOEING
707 - 548
717 - 83
720 - 62
727 - 723
737 - 1454
737NG - 2066
737M - 33
747 - 1016
757 - 703
767 - 583
777 - 984
787 - 419
C135 - 252
BOEING TOTAL - 8926
AIRBUS
A300 - 169
A310 - 85
A318 - 33
A319 - 727
A320 - 1560
A320N - 55
A321 - 481
A321N - 8
A330 - 542
A340 - 192
A350 - 76
A380 - 200
AIRBUS TOTAL - 4128
Yes, figures can say anything, but I think the reason that Boeings have blitzed the Airbuses is due to the various Stateside trips I took before Airbus had even been dreamed of. A US trip back then was Boeing central with DC-9s as a close second.
So, a few more figures....
DC-8 - 282
DC-9 INCLUDING MD80 range - 1096
DC-10 - 201
MD-11 - 157
MD-90 - 10
L-1011 - 101
Caravelle - 207
VC-10 - 52
BAC 1-11 - 142
Trident - 74
All that info would have taken me hours previously.
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Post by jerryrowe on Aug 3, 2018 19:48:11 GMT
Graham
My Airbus total is 4752, can beat you on all but A319 (I have 630) and A320 (I have 1594 in total).
How are you on Soviet-built jet airliners? I have never been to an eastern-bloc country (apart from a long weekend in Budapest) but my totals are
AN124. 20 19
IL62. 153 68
IL76. 52 32
IL86. 33 0
IL96. 9 3
SU95. 9 9
Tu104. 17 70
Tu124. 1 2
Tu134. 123 167
Tu154. 244 123
Tu204. 8 2
Yak40. 6 4
Yak42. 19 1
Jerry, I've piut my totals in alongside yours, quite some differences on both tallies
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