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Post by billsamuels on Oct 2, 2018 8:51:01 GMT
Morning Fellas,
Apologies for my recent absence but have been touring China for the past couple of weeks. Although not a spotting trip I'm afraid the temptation to 'see a few' was far to great for me not to have a go... This was my second visit to China - first being just a skip across the border down near Hong Kong about 4 years ago, but this was the big one that the 'Misses' had on her bucket list... We went with a British tour operator (Great Rail Journey's) who I would thoroughly recommend and the 'tour' was to take us to; Beijing, Shanghai, Three Gorges cruise along the Yangtze River, then Chengdu (for the Panda's) and Xian (for the Terra Cotta army).... All domestic travel was via High Speed Train (which was utterly impressive) and the international flights were with Finnair LHR/HEL - A350 HEL/PEK - A350 and Xian/HEL - A330 and HEL/LHR - A321. They were very impressive and much to our delight, we got upgraded to Business Class all the way home!!! Anyway, the trip was outstanding, apart from the food - which for 14 days was 3 square meals a day Chinese food - which I generally love, but three a day does get slightly repetitive... So, to the planes at the museum. As I have said before, I'm not a great photographer so if you see some glaring mistakes - please forgive me...
I'll start with a few good old British types...
 388A0AA5-0EDC-4319-9D72-546702140B66 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 8EAFD6B8-8C24-42F0-B10E-6B944AB506BD by bill samuels, on Flickr
 6C3B40B6-998D-4A19-9233-7B9F87A9B0F3 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 84C0F1DE-25FD-48C1-A57B-370A9DFC565F by bill samuels, on Flickr
Now the Chinese and Russian section...
 C0E27302-2AEB-4AC4-B655-210D617422D6 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 56B3D708-2780-4F4A-BA80-F0A79C9C1EA7 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 3B09F0F4-988D-48CD-9CAE-9E2B8A37592F by bill samuels, on Flickr
 3F46A0DD-A3BA-468A-A5D2-06871AE19AF7 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 9105BE71-B451-4963-83F4-E5FB9476CA06 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 E3358E41-4504-4BA0-A291-A2C24C2CFF59 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 52B64C2B-5D3C-47B6-9BCD-AE6BA80B4CF6 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 35DE156F-8E64-4814-9142-D9B71403B756 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 1031F986-F1F1-4553-A98E-95C2422EB67D by bill samuels, on Flickr
 1136F82A-6A7E-4FC9-B6B6-2BC38721D322 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 7E141939-3C6E-4CF3-9768-0E2E239A75F6 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 3AC871CE-E5D9-4597-8A64-21E76D047E91 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 F7573229-3277-4654-A2BF-66EF596365C3 by bill samuels, on Flickr
 313260FB-D1AD-469F-857F-2196A49D172B by bill samuels, on Flickr
That's part 1, I'll get to part 2 later today... Sorry the photo's aren't labelled - if you have any questions just ask...
Cheers guys.
Bill
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Post by keithh on Oct 2, 2018 14:31:01 GMT
Brilliant, loving the Russian stuff
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Post by billsamuels on Oct 2, 2018 14:51:48 GMT
China visit, part 2.  CC88B293-D094-4669-9586-CCFC1C469E0C by bill samuels, on Flickr  AA875432-64F9-4667-8FFA-CF78EA207D94 by bill samuels, on Flickr  0A24456F-1E02-4991-9383-D8D8E3A1EA79 by bill samuels, on Flickr  878830DA-0A05-4ADC-89E2-45B44418172F by bill samuels, on Flickr  E0B45AE8-358E-4DEF-875C-DBBB0A8C52FC by bill samuels, on Flickr  C5D72041-899A-4BC3-96F1-6E51298DB986 by bill samuels, on Flickr  04352548-DB98-43E4-9120-BD9AC5A71C29 by bill samuels, on Flickr  578FF3FB-5DAD-47D9-ABBF-C9B562BB0EC6 by bill samuels, on Flickr  24A988E7-2E0B-4A00-9577-82BE5714E467 by bill samuels, on Flickr  A5A99C01-A98B-49B2-B469-AF618D9120BF by bill samuels, on Flickr  C80E9377-E891-45F7-A049-DE63DAEAAF8B by bill samuels, on Flickr  B34DE07F-2D1E-4B70-AE92-B604925B8C32 by bill samuels, on Flickr  0F86DE59-51C7-45C1-BCC4-9D355199FD99 by bill samuels, on Flickr  A24AC327-93C2-403C-96E3-0637A96F1751 by bill samuels, on Flickr  A24F8FCA-F508-4668-9756-DAFEB7CD5247 by bill samuels, on Flickr  0CB8B011-DE60-4DF0-A321-2528B0F4C2EA by bill samuels, on Flickr  A53BB455-F9EF-4B8E-A56B-8865C3E4C665 by bill samuels, on Flickr  69A91039-3150-49FD-BD9B-8E129F075A77 by bill samuels, on Flickr  27BB9AEA-B31F-40C8-829F-E8873CC19DB2 by bill samuels, on Flickr  CEE9E5CD-277A-441F-B172-52636BE2E253 by bill samuels, on Flickr  585AE236-7D66-4B76-8286-A7C978DC6E93 by bill samuels, on Flickr  154C9FFD-DF9D-429F-BD46-47C5A115F7ED by bill samuels, on Flickr  CCB54353-AD06-47F3-B194-25B32008DF5D by bill samuels, on Flickr Well that's part two done - I'll try to load part three tomorrow... Cheers lads. Bill |
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Post by keithh on Oct 2, 2018 17:06:58 GMT
What a museum, better than Kiev
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Post by deanoitfc on Oct 2, 2018 17:15:27 GMT
Lovely pictures Bill
Glad you had a nice time
Dean
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Post by zz on Oct 2, 2018 20:38:05 GMT
Amazing place- great pics.
Nearly 20 years since I visited- do they still have the row of dozens of “MiGs” in the tunnel?
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Post by graham on Oct 3, 2018 6:36:40 GMT
Fabulous Bill, drooling over all those photos, truly a once-in-a-lifetime visit.
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Post by billsamuels on Oct 3, 2018 10:24:47 GMT
Hi Guys, Final part three.... I'll start with what I will call the 'Dak' section - clearly they are not all Dak's but you'll get the gist...  F40DFAE5-E75A-4099-913F-E4A741E803B1 by bill samuels, on Flickr  74DA1463-D9E8-4C1B-9897-E81653705099 by bill samuels, on Flickr  FF8E5F58-CEEE-4751-98FD-78D430159DD1 by bill samuels, on Flickr This one remains anonymous - but my suspicion is the former Zimbabwe AF machine, 7313 - any suggestions?  644F945C-AC05-457B-A351-746B045D77B4 by bill samuels, on Flickr  043AC923-F43D-42B8-B541-71E7C94D63CB by bill samuels, on Flickr Same machine from other side...  46B78160-D9F2-4C7E-88FA-0D7DD76A7ED5 by bill samuels, on Flickr Now, by popular demand - The MIG's (and their Chinese equivalent)... Apologies for the self portrait - its from the family album!!  4A2DEE3B-43BE-4471-9F9A-FB4A3586A644 by bill samuels, on Flickr  B2841FFB-E2C7-42E6-9DD0-FE9A8E8F3A26 by bill samuels, on Flickr  2EE17D68-6E2C-45E6-BC75-A659C5878D3E by bill samuels, on Flickr  BA790AD0-AA65-4D30-9C95-25DFD956D80F by bill samuels, on Flickr  6C20A853-2E44-4356-9A40-6E3C183B5FFF by bill samuels, on Flickr  F7A13E52-DB3E-4CE2-813E-6DDA0F30D20D by bill samuels, on Flickr  450641FD-4D02-4D0C-BC95-84D694522D76 by bill samuels, on Flickr  0B8761C5-4644-4308-8927-FD05DE5A2F1C by bill samuels, on Flickr This is an anonymous one, any takers?  F77A2F04-C1A6-44FB-9EDD-35E983DE52C6 by bill samuels, on Flickr  026AFA97-93D0-46C4-BAC7-8E903826D95C by bill samuels, on Flickr  9913A7CF-77B2-462A-808E-0B43AA2FF03D by bill samuels, on Flickr This is another anonymous one!!!  C236FDEE-B03E-4757-BA35-55C48A0B9148 by bill samuels, on Flickr  53BAFA16-9D01-4D9A-A25C-6C5C232ACD9F by bill samuels, on Flickr  1EEFB3AE-476C-41AB-9005-C261D016B1C5 by bill samuels, on Flickr  34500F07-4802-4F89-90F3-61C343710E2C by bill samuels, on Flickr  3954F40A-1CE5-43D8-A37D-FE1F37BAB721 by bill samuels, on Flickr  5DA4D275-CC6C-456F-AA99-5DD5CBD7D983 by bill samuels, on Flickr  C827B2F2-2A22-4A65-BF18-B01F2469F16B by bill samuels, on Flickr Now some odd's and sod's....  8D56E033-05A7-452A-920A-F27772054062 by bill samuels, on Flickr  A4962BD2-E23A-410E-BD33-3F14221EEBB5 by bill samuels, on Flickr  BFD699FE-71ED-4D58-AA6E-99E550BF8C8D by bill samuels, on Flickr  64140451-1B2D-4E56-9335-BDBE22C45E9D by bill samuels, on Flickr  F494BEFB-358F-4B7B-8C11-8399A597F4FA by bill samuels, on Flickr  0CDFBE99-9856-4D1D-B83C-AA4A5F62F5BD by bill samuels, on Flickr  CD4AFE99-219A-4D77-A42F-538543E8F03D by bill samuels, on Flickr  01097E00-F368-4360-8F82-4706B2B356F8 by bill samuels, on Flickr  F6B60D60-95F4-4BFC-A1F2-3ED5670D8F0C by bill samuels, on Flickr  3D1E9E60-0506-4E48-B3D0-3824DB202942 by bill samuels, on Flickr  7AE2903B-7D74-49F2-979B-8E8DAF715B56 by bill samuels, on Flickr  ECF1B647-DA2B-419A-9F1A-DCF1169F6AD6 by bill samuels, on Flickr  1479C92F-D8C2-4C8D-8EE5-8A7E70118D55 by bill samuels, on Flickr  65F0E6DF-924D-43F2-BB8F-A7ED5FB74B93 by bill samuels, on Flickr  5FEF28E8-3986-4906-8427-3B3D711443FA by bill samuels, on Flickr Finally, on the way into Beijing we flew over a couple of airfields at quite low level - I think one of them was Beijing Nan Yuan Airport, the other is a mystery - but both looked to have some pretty nice looking frames parked up, any suggestions gratefully received...  88545A41-BEBB-466C-9E3C-0567E0259DAD by bill samuels, on Flickr  AA663491-C49B-4BEE-9183-F4E5217B3ACB by bill samuels, on Flickr  D2D96CC2-17EA-494F-AAED-523B25B7A803 by bill samuels, on Flickr  75F8DF71-68CF-4EF1-8121-BC12752AC038 by bill samuels, on Flickr  F7D04C58-6E2F-4ED8-A45D-6DE60A0D361C by bill samuels, on Flickr  73EBF121-FBCE-4C10-B030-00C1899FA801 by bill samuels, on Flickr  789F6C75-57EC-4D1D-92B9-02D75967B4C5 by bill samuels, on Flickr  2CE6391E-175A-47BF-936B-8411EB41B77A by bill samuels, on Flickr  57C37C44-FE82-41F0-8165-EF72E788AE4C by bill samuels, on Flickr  C364662A-B3AA-43F5-8764-D3F71EF4CA40 by bill samuels, on Flickr So that's about it guys. I have some further shots from another camera but am having some trouble downloading onto PC/Flickr.... Also, just referring back to a comment made by ZZ, the museum is a former active base - not sure if it is unique, but the base operated with an underground, or to be more precise an under-mountain hangar which, on the day of my visit was closed!!! This, I am lead to believe houses another 50-70 frames which were all out of sight mainly from satellites... Quite ingenious. Hope you enjoy seeing the photo's as much as I did taking them - apologies for some of the quality... Cheers lads. Bill |
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Post by keithh on Oct 3, 2018 18:04:38 GMT
I'm not a military buff but that is MENTAL
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Post by graham on Oct 3, 2018 18:55:21 GMT
Fabulous Bill, what a wonderful collection. A mate of mine is Chinese and he reckons the script on your "unmarked" MiG reads " chicken curry, prawn balls and special fried rice"...hope that helps...;0)
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Post by billsamuels on Oct 3, 2018 19:28:24 GMT
Fabulous Bill, what a wonderful collection. A mate of mine is Chinese and he reckons the script on your "unmarked" MiG reads " chicken curry, prawn balls and special fried rice"...hope that helps...;0) Now having spent 2 weeks on constant Chinese nosh, any chance or sign of a curry would be a very welcome sight mate... Cheers G. Bill |
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Post by jerryrowe on Oct 4, 2018 9:47:03 GMT
Bill
I can confirm from Google Earth that the first field in your photos is Nan Yuan. There is a 2016 report of the stored aircraft there (including 11 TU-154s!) at globalspotting.wixsite.com and they are unlikely to have changed much since.
There is reportedly a military field at Liangxiangzhen, SW of Beijing, I found the place on Google Earth but could not see the field!
(Edit) Have now traced Liangxiangzhen field on Google Earth, and can confirm it is the second field in your photos.
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Post by billsamuels on Oct 4, 2018 10:33:58 GMT
Bill I can confirm from Google Earth that the first field in your photos is Nan Yuan. There is a 2016 report of the stored aircraft there (including 11 TU-154s!) at globalspotting.wixsite.com and they are unlikely to have changed much since. There is reportedly a military field at Liangxiangzhen, SW of Beijing, I found the place on Google Earth but could not see the field! (Edit) Have now traced Liangxiangzhen field on Google Earth, and can confirm it is the second field in your photos. Cheers Gerry, Thats very helpful mate and I’ll look into it. All the best. Bill |
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Post by Jeff on Oct 5, 2018 11:16:06 GMT
Finally had time to view the complete set, what a fantastic 4 hours that must of been .... im jealous as hell 😊
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Post by norwichmd11 on Oct 6, 2018 13:32:45 GMT
Nice photos Bill shame the tunnel was shut your`ll have to go back.Looks a very nice museum.
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Post by jargon on Oct 6, 2018 19:42:23 GMT
Bill
The translation for the 5 symbols is 'Young Pioneer' per my Chinese colleague which I guess could mean early prototype??
John
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