Malta Air still expanding

[Jeff]

I knew this arm of Ryan Air was quite big but didn't quite realise how big, it still seems to be expanding as well

Reg'n	Type 1	C/No	Operator
9H-QAA	Boeing 737 NG	44782	Malta Air
9H-QAB	Boeing 737 NG	44792	Malta Air
9H-QAC	Boeing 737 NG	44789	Malta Air
9H-QAD	Boeing 737 NG	44813	Malta Air
9H-QAE	Boeing 737 NG	44812	Malta Air
9H-QAF	Boeing 737 NG	44811	Malta Air
9H-QAG	Boeing 737 NG	44815	Malta Air
9H-QAH	Boeing 737 NG	44816	Malta Air
9H-QAI	Boeing 737 NG	44814	Malta Air
9H-QAJ	Boeing 737 NG	44817	Malta Air
9H-QAK	Boeing 737 NG	44793	Malta Air
9H-QAL	Boeing 737 NG	44790	Malta Air
9H-QAM	Boeing 737 NG	44794	Malta Air
9H-QAN	Boeing 737 NG	44795	Malta Air
9H-QAO	Boeing 737 NG	44691	Malta Air
9H-QAP	Boeing 737 NG	44689	Malta Air
9H-QAR	Boeing 737 NG	44692	Malta Air
9H-QBI	Boeing 737 NG	44705	Malta Air
9H-QBJ	Boeing 737 NG	44706	Malta Air
9H-QBL	Boeing 737 NG	44709	Malta Air
9H-QBM	Boeing 737 NG	44708	Malta Air
9H-QBN	Boeing 737 NG	44710	Malta Air
9H-QBO	Boeing 737 NG	44714	Malta Air
9H-QBP	Boeing 737 NG	44715	Malta Air
9H-QBS	Boeing 737 NG	44711	Malta Air
9H-QBT	Boeing 737 NG	44717	Malta Air
9H-QBU	Boeing 737 NG	44712	Malta Air
9H-QBW	Boeing 737 NG	44719	Malta Air
9H-QBX	Boeing 737 NG	61580	Malta Air
9H-QBY	Boeing 737 NG	44720	Malta Air
9H-QBZ	Boeing 737 NG	44721	Malta Air
9H-QCB	Boeing 737 NG	44723	Malta Air
9H-QCC	Boeing 737 NG	44718	Malta Air
9H-QCD	Boeing 737 NG	44727	Malta Air
9H-QCF	Boeing 737 NG	44725	Malta Air
9H-QCG	Boeing 737 NG	44728	Malta Air
9H-QCH	Boeing 737 NG	44731	Malta Air
9H-QCI	Boeing 737 NG	44726	Malta Air
9H-QCJ	Boeing 737 NG	62690	Malta Air
9H-QCL	Boeing 737 NG	44732	Malta Air
9H-QCN	Boeing 737 NG	44833	Malta Air
9H-QCO	Boeing 737 NG	44733	Malta Air
9H-QCP	Boeing 737 NG	44734	Malta Air
9H-QCQ	Boeing 737 NG	44735	Malta Air
9H-QCS	Boeing 737 NG	44744	Malta Air
9H-QCT	Boeing 737 NG	44742	Malta Air
9H-QCV	Boeing 737 NG	44739	Malta Air
9H-QCX	Boeing 737 NG	44740	Malta Air
9H-QCY	Boeing 737 NG	44747	Malta Air
9H-QDB	Boeing 737 NG	44751	Malta Air
9H-QDC	Boeing 737 NG	44752	Malta Air
9H-QDG	Boeing 737 NG	44756	Malta Air
9H-QDN	Boeing 737 NG	44804	Malta Air
9H-QDT	Boeing 737 NG	44769	Malta Air
9H-QEB	Boeing 737 NG	44808	Malta Air
9H-QED	Boeing 737 NG	44820	Malta Air
9H-QEF	Boeing 737 NG	44824	Malta Air
9H-QEG	Boeing 737 NG	44821	Malta Air
9H-QEH	Boeing 737 NG	44823	Malta Air
9H-QEI	Boeing 737 NG	44828	Malta Air
9H-QEK	Boeing 737 NG	44830	Malta Air
9H-QEN	Boeing 737 NG	44827	Malta Air

[davidallum]

It's obviously a tax fiddle by Mr O'Leary.

[Jeff]

I heard it was to split the AOC from the main Ryan Air one due brexit uncertainties , along the same lines as the SP registered ones...... But your prob right Dave lol

[rugbyref]

I don’t want to turn this into a political post, but maybe he thinks Poland and Malta will stay in the EU longer than Ireland will?

[davebasing]

Sadly its nothing more than sound business sense. You may recall that Ryanair crew went on strike in an attempt to get local contracts, specific to where they are based. This was however actually beyond Ryanair's own control as Irish tax law requires crews of Irish registered carriers to pay Irish income tax regardless of their neither living in, or being based in Ireland. Crews based outside Ireland were in many cases therefore paying higher tax (and missing out on other associated benefits) than other locally based crews including those of other European low cost carriers. In some cases the differences were substantial. The establishment of subsidiaries in Poland and Malta finally gave the crews what they wanted and removed a long standing internal grievance which has not helped the company. Ryanair crews at a number of European bases will now be transferred to Malta Air contracts allowing them to pay tax locally wherever they are based. Ryanair also of course gained financially (it is after all a business responsible to its share holders), especially in Malta where the Government has a significant financial share in what is basically a joint venture company and extends the island's ability to gain extra links to countries outside the EU where inter-Governmental agreements would not permit free standing fifth freedom operations by third country carriers such as Ryanair when acting in its own right. The Maltese Government does of course own Air Malta but the carrier is, shall we say, not the most financially stable (EU state aid rules of course prevent the Government from becoming effectively a bank for Air Malta) and Malta Air gives it a low cost option to develop routes which would not be suitable for a legacy carrier such as Air Malta. So its seen as a win for the employees, for Ryanair and for Malta. So whatever one thinks of Ryanair it still flies you across Europe often for less than a rail ticket from Basingstoke to London (with world famous South Western Trains service!!) while BA now also charges you on short haul for bags, food, drinks, seat selection and booking changes etc. Just like Ryanair but usually at higher cost. No one is after all forced to use any of the low cost carriers. I do however have a great affection for Air Malta, including some years back having been invited to address their AGM on how to prepare from an aviation perspective for the EU before they originally joined. This resulted in my photo appearing in their in-flight magazine and I humbly apologise to anyone who required counselling after seeing it there in mid flight!

[rugbyref]

Jan 27, 2020 17:22:45 GMT davebasing said:

Sadly its nothing more than sound business sense. You may recall that Ryanair crew went on strike in an attempt to get local contracts, specific to where they are based. This was however actually beyond Ryanair's own control as Irish tax law requires crews of Irish registered carriers to pay Irish income tax regardless of their neither living in, or being based in Ireland. Crews based outside Ireland were in many cases therefore paying higher tax (and missing out on other associated benefits) than other locally based crews including those of other European low cost carriers. In some cases the differences were substantial. The establishment of subsidiaries in Poland and Malta finally gave the crews what they wanted and removed a long standing internal grievance which has not helped the company. Ryanair crews at a number of European bases will now be transferred to Malta Air contracts allowing them to pay tax locally wherever they are based. Ryanair also of course gained financially (it is after all a business responsible to its share holders), especially in Malta where the Government has a significant financial share in what is basically a joint venture company and extends the island's ability to gain extra links to countries outside the EU where inter-Governmental agreements would not permit free standing fifth freedom operations by third country carriers such as Ryanair when acting in its own right. The Maltese Government does of course own Air Malta but the carrier is, shall we say, not the most financially stable (EU state aid rules of course prevent the Government from becoming effectively a bank for Air Malta) and Malta Air gives it a low cost option to develop routes which would not be suitable for a legacy carrier such as Air Malta. So its seen as a win for the employees, for Ryanair and for Malta. So whatever one thinks of Ryanair it still flies you across Europe often for less than a rail ticket from Basingstoke to London (with world famous South Western Trains service!!) while BA now also charges you on short haul for bags, food, drinks, seat selection and booking changes etc. Just like Ryanair but usually at higher cost. No one is after all forced to use any of the low cost carriers. I do however have a great affection for Air Malta, including some years back having been invited to address their AGM on how to prepare from an aviation perspective for the EU before they originally joined. This resulted in my photo appearing in their in-flight magazine and I humbly apologise to anyone who required counselling after seeing it there in mid flight!

Thanks for this detail. It always seemed likely that O’Leary would do anything that saved even the smallest amount of money. I can remember chatting to Easyjet cabin crew, who told me that Ryanair pilots have to pay for their coffee on board, unlike Easyjet.

[keithh]

With regard to all these re-registrations, I can’t be arsed to be frank. If I see them, I make a note but I’m not going out of my way for them. What with Norwegian as well, the skies are full of scrapes!

[Jeff]

Jan 28, 2020 12:41:29 GMT keithh said:

With regard to all these re-registrations, I can’t be arsed to be frank. If I see them, I make a note but I’m not going out of my way for them. What with Norwegian as well, the skies are full of scrapes!

Frame spotting is the way forward.....lol, I decided this when the Spanish went all EC-123 back in the 80s :-)

[graham]

Yes, switch across to frames Keith, I did when I first started using PlaneBase nearly two years ago.