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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 8:43:17 GMT
Planning in advance regarding a trip to Oshkosh in 2022:- and after seeing the post on the FAB site re cancellation of OSHKOSH this year – I thought I would start the planning now- I therefore wondered if any kind souls would be able to give me an answer to a few of my queries or any other advice re the event:-
1. Do you have to be a member of the EAA to visit OSHKOSH?
2. Is it best to purchase tickets prior to going?.
3. Can you buy tickets daily or get a ticket for several days (Season Ticket)?
4. How many days is recommended to cover most areas- I intend to go for FOUR days.
5. Any good hotels in Appleton?
6. Where is it best to start from on day One.
7. Do shuttle buses run between various aircraft area’s?
8. Is there a shuttle bus to take you over to the Basler area and Biz Jets?
9. Visiting aircraft campsite- is that out of bounds or can you walk around.?
10. Any other advice or info would be appreciated.
It is a first visit for me to this event- in fact it is on my bucket list. I know some members have been hence the request.
TIA
AM
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Post by rj on May 25, 2020 9:06:33 GMT
Will be interesting to see the answers as am planning to go next year with dave. Things I know is that being a member gives you a big discount if going for 4 days and will save you money. Best place to stay is the local university which is acessed via the eaa website. There are shuttles around the site including Baslers and the seaplane base. Baslers you have to book a tour in advance. Go the first 4 days not the last as the weekend is pretty quiet. I was thinking of driving up on the Sunday to be in place for Monday. Just need the EAA to park all the non US tin in one place as I don't collect US tin/homebuilts.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 10:21:15 GMT
RJ, Thanks for the quick response- Oshkosh is somewhere I have always wanted to go too, for the experience, plus to see the warbirds and obviously the Basler side, plus biz jets. Good luck next year. Will look out for your report.
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Post by gtf4j2m on May 25, 2020 11:04:33 GMT
To get the best deal you have to be a member of the EAA. You can do this on line and book your tickets which you then pick up at the gate on the way in. There are buses by the entrance that will take you to the seaplane base, always worth a visit, take some insect repellent. The are buses onsite that will take you across the runway and round the other side. All the aircraft parking is available to walk around although some restrictions are usually in force when the warbirds start up before the daily display. I have always gone for the week. First time Monday to Saturday. The Saturday was a waste of a day because it was very quiet. the second time I arrived for the Sunday and Friday was the last day, much better. The first Sunday is arrivals day. There are land trains towed by tractors running around the site and are very useful to avoid having to walk vast distances. There are plenty food outlets spread around the site and free water is also available.
I stayed in Appleton during my second visit. There was a Days Inn but I think that has now closed. There are other places to stay and also plenty places to eat. Don't miss the F-86 that is displayed by the main road. If you have transport then Appleton and Fon du Lac airfields are very busy with overflow traffic.
If you want any any more gen then don't hesitate to ask. I am planning to go again soon but cannot plan anything just yet.
Graham GTF4J2M
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 11:31:17 GMT
Excellent- Thank you Graham Obviously very early in the planning stage- but the EAA membership is looking a good bet, with both yourself and RJ mentioning it. Thanks again for the quick reply.
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Post by davidallum on May 25, 2020 15:16:44 GMT
Will be interesting to see the answers as am planning to go next year with dave. Things I know is that being a member gives you a big discount if going for 4 days and will save you money. Best place to stay is the local university which is acessed via the eaa website. There are shuttles around the site including Baslers and the seaplane base. Baslers you have to book a tour in advance. Go the first 4 days not the last as the weekend is pretty quiet. I was thinking of driving up on the Sunday to be in place for Monday. Just need the EAA to park all the non US tin in one place as I don't collect US tin/homebuilts. Good luck with that mate,btw,I'm going to win the lottery as well lol!
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Post by zz on May 25, 2020 20:23:13 GMT
Hi My offers to your questions-
1) No you don’t have to be a member, but as mentioned, EAA members get a cheaper deal. You’ll just have to work whether the EAA membership on top, makes it cost effective.
Another possibility, is press tickets. When we went in 2014, we were able to get press tickets as my dad writes for a magazine. We contacted them in advance, picked them up early on the first day, then it was either free or extremely cheap. Maybe speak to Graham, see if he’s happy for you to try asking as press for AFA?!
2 + 3) yes I think you can get tickets in advance and for multiple days. If so, I would recommend this- Depending on what time you arrive each day you may have a short queue to get in, but it’ll be quicker than queuing to buy tickets each day.
4) If you want to see everything I would recommend 4 days. In 2014, we did Mon-Thur and as above, do the beginning of the week.
Mon-Wed we arrived about 07.30 and left about 12 hours later! Thur we arrived a little later and left mid-afternoon.
This allowed us to do- Mon morning- Exhibition Mon afternoon- homebuilt, visitors
Tue morning- warbirds Tue afternoon- homebuilt, visitors
Wednesday - classic, vintage, ultralights, floatplanes on the field, visitors
Thursday - quick look at warbirds, Basler tour, walk through biz jets and visitors, Museum Then off to Lake Winnebago for 100+ floatplanes.
That allowed us to log about 4000 or so in the 4 days.
5) lots of hotels in Appleton. That’s where we stayed but just in an average motel. There’s also an airport to look at in Appleton and an F86? (Can’t remember) in the town.
6) well you can start where you like- our routine above, but do what interests you most. I would recommend one main area per day, then visitors in the evening when you’ve finished. But you’ve got to be prepared to do long hours if you want to see EVERYTHING!
7 +8) yes there are shuttle buses between areas. But we didn’t use them a huge amount- walking/logging to the end of an area up one side, then back down the other.... But we did use them at the end of the day when knackered, and also to get to GA/ biz terminal over far side then on to Basler hangars.
9) We were able to walk everywhere. You’ll just have to decide if you want to slog through Pipers and Cessnas after a full day of warbirds and home builds! We were even able to walk into the visitors parking Over the far side of the airfield from various airfield gates in the evening and asked and were given permission to enter the hangars where the aerobatic display aircraft were. In the visitor parks you’ll get a few comments from Americans who don’t understand the hobby but 99% are fine and friendly. Just one Cessna owner who changes his reg with stickers and reports spotters to officials because he doesn’t like the idea of his personal details being taken.... there’s always one....
10) well that’s most of it to be honest, but ask if you have any questions between now and then. I’ve posted many Oshkosh photos in the first few US pages on this site to whet your appetite!
Hope this helps Cheers Phil
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Post by rj on May 26, 2020 8:11:46 GMT
Hi Phil, that is interesting to know. Are they strict on what parks where? So will all the navions, Luscombes etc be in the Classic area or will some escape into the visitors area? Also roughly how many non US visitors were there, and were these scattered all over? I don't collect US tin/homebuilts but happy to walk for some canadian RV's etc. Do they ever get helicopters, never seen any photos of any? Finally is food and toilets all in one area or is there any around the parking areas? Thanks rob
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Post by graham on May 26, 2020 8:31:16 GMT
Hi guys. I certainly have no objection if any potential visitors to the show would like to use the forum here as a way to hopefully gain press access. I've always enjoyed the Oshkosh Show reports and photos immensely and appreciate the time and trouble you take to upload it all, so if the forum can say "thank you" by helping out like this, then go for it. Good luck.
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Post by davidallum on May 26, 2020 8:31:58 GMT
Hi Phil, that is interesting to know. Are they strict on what parks where? So will all the navions, Luscombes etc be in the Classic area or will some escape into the visitors area? Also roughly how many non US visitors were there, and were these scattered all over? I don't collect US tin/homebuilts but happy to walk for some canadian RV's etc. Do they ever get helicopters, never seen any photos of any? Finally is food and toilets all in one area or is there any around the parking areas? Thanks rob Christ Rob,you don't want much mate,lol!
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Post by gtf4j2m on May 26, 2020 8:55:15 GMT
Most of the classics park together as well as as most of the homebuilts, there is a parking lot for RV's that is about half the size of Sywell. There are usually quiet a lot of foreign visitors, mainly Canadian but others as well. The last time I was there I decided to get the land train to the end of its run and walk back as I done enough for the day, when I got there I was told that a Mexican Bonanza was in the park, it was, on the last row & entailed over a mile of walking to find. The helicopters use a helipad situated by the EAA museum on Pioneer airfield, so unless you go there they cannot be seen, although the way in goes past the pad.. Food & toilets are spread out through the area. When you arrive and pick up your tickets you are given a map which shows parking areas, food, toilets, bus routes and much more. Just watching the landings is crazy. 2 aircraft landing on the same runway, both aiming for a different coloured spot and another on the grass alongside. And the same is happening on the 2nd runway as well.
hope this helps
Graham GTF4J2M
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Post by zz on May 26, 2020 12:04:10 GMT
Hi Phil, that is interesting to know. Are they strict on what parks where? So will all the navions, Luscombes etc be in the Classic area or will some escape into the visitors area? Also roughly how many non US visitors were there, and were these scattered all over? I don't collect US tin/homebuilts but happy to walk for some canadian RV's etc. Do they ever get helicopters, never seen any photos of any? Finally is food and toilets all in one area or is there any around the parking areas? Thanks rob Hi Rob Most aircraft park in their relevant sections, but you will get the odd few in the “wrong” area, or exhibition area or perhaps in the visitor parking. But the vast majority of homebuilts, warbirds, classic... etc. are in the relevant park. As for non-US visitors- in 2014, out of the near 4000 logged, we saw- 184 Canadian inc 3 Daks at Basler 2 German light 1 Belgian light 1 French Vans 1 Brasilian homebuilt 2 Mexican light (there was a third over the far side somewhere but we didn’t see it) plus a Dak at Basler 1 Manx TBM 1 Chinese Global Yes there are a few helicopters, but not many. a few Robinsons, Bell 47s and the like at the helipad by the museum as mentioned above. A few helis (Rotorways) in the ultralight area, a few helis in the exhibition area, and then half a dozen or so in the warbird area (Mil 2s, OH58s, AH1s, OH6s) Food, toilets are scattered everywhere- honestly there is very little need to plan for those- I’m sure you would, but just make sure you have water with you at all times, it gets very hot. The trains/trolley buses/tractors- very easy- obvious stops and as mentioned you’ll be given a map on entry. When you do the warbird park, get in as early as possible and look round the Harvard’s and T28s first. At some point, they will close off the area with these types most days so that dozens of these can go out flying. You can remain in the warbird park, but certain areas will be closed off, and lots of the interesting aircraft depart for a couple of hours. They will all be back and it will all open again- so I guess early or late is good... cheers
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Post by zz on May 26, 2020 12:08:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 13:15:43 GMT
ZZ (Phil),
That's excellent, I thinks you have covered all my queries, as did Graham's reply as well- Hope you got what you were after- Just one more for Phill ZZ- how far ahead did you book your hotel in Appleton as I have heard they sell out pretty quick.?
Thanks for all your excellent replies and information.
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Post by zz on May 26, 2020 14:42:33 GMT
I know I booked the flight the October before the show, as I still have that email. I think we booked the motel ASAP after we had flight confirmation to ensure we got in.
It was only a fairly basic motel but it’s about a 40 min drive to the show, so we were leaving around 7am and arriving back after dinner around 10-11ish- it didn’t really matter what it was like!!
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 16:23:10 GMT
Thanks ZZ the advice is appreciated.
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Post by zz on May 26, 2020 17:01:09 GMT
No worries Wish I was going
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