Derelict in Saudi Arabia

[chrisj]

Hi All , I am trying help someone who was in Saudi a while back . I saw a very good post on a group a while back but now can not recall where or when it was so can anyone out there please help by recalling this post ?  It had some photos and I think there were replies with additional information . Bit of a long shot I know . I have gone through some groups that I thought the post was on but not sure just how far back I would need to go .   Thanks in advance .  Chrisj

[graham]

Hi Chris, any idea whereabouts the wreck was and what it was? - airport location maybe? If it IS at an airport, then maybe Planebase or ADU might have it listed.

I've just Googled it and first hit is a Catalina out in the desert

[chrisj]

Hi Graham , I have a couple of pages which I copied some time back , from a publication which I did not make a note of ! ( Now that is a good let out if ever there was one ) Pages are headed Middle East - Saudia Arabia and are page numbers 34 to 37 inclusive . When I was in Saudi I heard of this Cat. by the Red Sea and the publication gives :- Ras Ash Shaykh Humayd , Aqaba as location , then - A derelict PBY-5 is located on the shores of the Red Sea , it was abandoned after sustaining damage during an attack by Bedouins . Then it gives (48397) Consolidate PBY-5A last noted 22 March 1960 . I heard it was still there up to about 2004 . I think the post I am seeking gave more details of this and many others . Hope that helps if only a little . Chris

[graham]

The Cat attacked by Bedouins is given as N5593V

[seaharrierfa2]

Chris, I think I recall the post. It has shots of the line of of airliners and biz at one of the airports including MD-11’s and 747SP’s Gulfstreams all stored and worse for wear. Alas, I too, can not recall where I saw it. It did inspire me to use Google Earth but then depressed me seeing over 50 F-5’s stored outside at Taif (and a single one winged ADV). Have you looked in your search history….. Bob

[chrisj]

Thanks Graham , I knew there was a civil reg for the Cat but did not have it to hand , only the mentioned publication . I shall add that as a note .
Thanks also to seaharrierfa2 . That is another post for me to find as I have not seen that one . The one I was looking for has among others , derelict Cv 240 ( or so ) in Saudi a/l colours and others such as DC3 and I think Chipmunks . I shall try the search history as you suggest . It is the age thing that one forgets these things !! Chris j

[seaharrierfa2]

I remember one with Chipmunks and Vampires. It was Jeddah I was thinking of, if you put these co-ordinates into Google Earth you’ll see what I mean (21.7073040, 39.1308496). Must have been a random Facebook group I saw it.

Bob

[chrisj]

Thanks again Bob . Chris

[keefyboy]

Hi folks - I used to live and work in Riyadh and may be able to shed some light on a few aircraft but not wrecks in the desert. If you go on Google Earth and look up Riyadh - zoom in and you will find slap bang in the middle of downtown Riyadh - King Abdul Aziz airport. It's a bit like Northolt and was always home to the Saudi Royal family VIP jets - mostly Tristars/747 and exec jets. Also home to most of the Saudi C130s till they transferred across to PSAB in late 2001. If you zoom in on the airfield and check ot the most north easterly corner, you will see the RSAF Museum which has quite a few heavies parked outside but also a substantial number under cover too. The museum has it's own website which I can't find at present but the following link lists the aircraft present - www.aviationmuseum.eu/Blogvorm/saqr-aljazeera-aviation-museum/

Don't confuse this airfield with the international airport which is on the northern outskirts of Riyadh. I don't think you'll find any W&R fodder there neither will you find any at Prince Sultan Airbase near Al Kharg.
Cheers
Keith

[graham]

Further to Keith's post above, this is what PlaneBase says is based at Jeddah. Lots of assorted Gulfstreams on there, most of which are listed as being withdrawn.

Airport : Jeddah
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N921SA Falcon 2000 148 Dar Jana Group Ltd OEJN
N371BC 737NG 8EF/W BBJ2 32971 ExecuJet UK Ltd OEJN
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HZ-HM1B 747 SP68 21652 Government of Saudi Arabia OEJN
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HZ-HMS2 A340 213X 204 Government of Saudi Arabia OEJN
HZ-HA1 GII TT 216 Harth Trading Establishment OEJN
N892SS G650 ER 6226 Horizon Aviation OEJN
VP-CAB Falcon 900 B 171 Jet Aviation Business Jets FZCO OEJN
HZ-AS99 ACJ318 112 Elite 3932 Mid East Jet OEJN
N757MA 757 24Q 28463 Mid East Jet OEJN
N777AS 777 24QER 29271 Mid East Jet OEJN
VP-CFJ 125 700B 257124 Middle East Aviation Services OEJN
N732PA Challenger 605 5916 Mirage Aviation Ltd OEJN
N437GA GIV SP 1437 MYN Aviation Ltd OEJN
HZ-KSDC Falcon 2000 142 NasJet OEJN
HZ-KSGA G450 4079 NasJet OEJN
N44KJ G650 ER 6055 NasJet OEJN
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HZ-PCA GII 179 Presidency of Civil Aviation OEJN
HZ-OHS Challenger 601 3A 5102 Privatair Saudi Arabia OEJN
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478 C-130H Hercules 4618 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
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483 C-130H Hercules 4758 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
484 VC-130H Hercules 4843 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
485 VC-130H Hercules 4845 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
486 VC-130H Hercules 4915 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1601 C-130H Hercules 4612 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1602 C-130H Hercules 4614 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1604 C-130H Hercules 4633 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1605 C-130H Hercules 4634 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1615 C-130H Hercules 4745 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1622 C-130H-30 Hercules 5212 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1623 C-130H Hercules 5254 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1624 C-130H Hercules 5267 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1625 C-130H Hercules 5269 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1626 C-130H Hercules 5270 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1627 C-130H Hercules 4567 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1628 C-130H Hercules 4637 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1629 C-130H Hercules 4607 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1630 C-130H-30 Hercules 5211 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1631 C-130H-30 Hercules 4986 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
1632 C-130H Hercules 4837 Royal Saudi Air Force OEJN
N646AK Global 7500 70039 RRSM International LLC OEJN
HZ-BIN Hawker 900XP HA-0023 Salem Aviation OEJN
HZ-SSM King Air B350 FL-97 Samana Special Mission OEJN
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HZ-AFR GIII 410 Saudia Special Flight Services OEJN
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HZ-RC3 GIII 331 Saudia Special Flight Services OEJN
N995BA Challenger 601 3A 5095 Superior Aviation Inc OEJN

[chrisj]

Thanks Graham & Keith . This all started out following a plea for help from a friend of a friend . I had seen many years ago , some photos of derelict aircraft at an airfield in Saudi . These included a Convairliner in Saudi markings . I have seen these and more photos some where on the net but can not think just where . My first location when I worked there , was a Dhahran where we used shelters that surrounded the aircraft dump . Because of their security and lack of understanding anyone having an interest in old aircraft , it was not healthy to visit the dump but just about all could be seen easily . Next was Khamis where one had to travel via an international airport to get to freedom . Jeddah was used by me more often than not . All aircraft park away from the terminals . one terminal for Saudi a/l , one for others , one for annual pilgrims and a VIP/Royal terminal . All Saudair aircraft lined up in front of their terminal , often by types . From the terminal , to the right the RSAF C130s along with Saudair C130s could be seen . The royal hangar was in front and a long way off but often had a variety of their types outside . I found the Biz park one day when we landed near to it but could not see it otherwise . Outside of the terminal was the Saudair hangars along with rows of Gulfstreams and yellow Beech single engine types . Any spotting had to be careful and by eye only ! Sometimes we landed over the old airport where a 707 was among the buildings and a large road ran parallel to out approach which had several aircraft mounted on round a bouts . Riyadh had one long terminal divided into sections for domestic flight , Saudi international and others . It was usuall night when I passed through but I recall some hangars opposite the terminal with the likes of A340 and smaller types . These airfields are huge ! It once took us twenty minutes to taxi to the runway and we were the only aircraft and did not stop anywhere ! Anyway , still looking for that post so please if anyone finds it please let me know . Chris

[chrisb]

I would check out the Catalina Society

www.catalina.org.uk/world-catalina-news/

[chrisj]

Thank You Chrisb . Another bit of information and each little bit adds up . Thanks . Chrisj

[keefyboy]

Hi Chrisj - I've just caught up with your message about how huge Saudi airfields are. I worked at Prince Sultan Airbase (PSAB) and it's secure perimeter contained an area the size of the Isle of Wight. Transport aircraft like VC10s, Hercs and Learjets would fly over the secure perimeter at great height and then do a corkscrew decent just prior to landing. A much safer way of avoiding ground to air missiles. I guess with Dhahran being on the coast, approaches there were not so complicated?
Cheers
Keith

[Jeff]

Jul 14, 2021 12:15:33 GMT chrisj said:

Thanks Graham , I knew there was a civil reg for the Cat but did not have it to hand , only the mentioned publication . I shall add that as a note .
Thanks also to seaharrierfa2 . That is another post for me to find as I have not seen that one . The one I was looking for has among others , derelict Cv 240 ( or so ) in Saudi a/l colours and others such as DC3 and I think Chipmunks . I shall try the search history as you suggest . It is the age thing that one forgets these things !! Chris j

Had a look on Google, found 2 convair, one sitting next to a DC3 which is promising, the other crash landed, hope it helps

[chrisj]

Thanks Jeff , every bit helps . I am gathering all these bits together so that I can send them to the person who requested help and then he can pick what helps him . It is a pity that Saudi is so secretive as there are lots of 'historic' aircraft and other items just discarded and waiting to rot ! Chris

[adi44]

This was the situation in 1986 :-

img129 by Adrian Share, on Flickr

img130 by Adrian Share, on Flickr


Regards

Adrian

[chrisj]

Many thanks Adrian . I think this was the period required by the person seeking some help . As I had said , Every little bit helps , Thank you . Chrisj

[gull04]

Hi Folks,

Saw this aircraft while transiting the Red Sea in the mid 1970's, there is a page about it here.

Regards

Dave

[chrisj]

Yet more thanks to Dave . I had seen something similar earlier . Chris