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Post by graham on Sept 5, 2022 6:27:14 GMT
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Post by christoff on Sept 5, 2022 6:39:30 GMT
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Post by graham on Sept 5, 2022 6:55:10 GMT
Thanks Chris, tragic and rather mysterious.
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Post by michael on Sept 5, 2022 19:43:19 GMT
Graham, Its is very tragic but not totally Uncommon Payne Stewart (Golfer)-Learjet The Helios B737 And one I was witness to while at Scottish OATCC ,D-CDPD Learjet 25B as an ATCA (ATC Assistant) on Scottish High Level sector 18/5/83,More eerilly I was introduced to a sister of one of the crew/passengers (cant remember now) at the European Controllers Cup Football Tournament 1983 less than a week after. Ithink she hads been invited on the off chance she could get some unoffical answers as at that time it was not exactly known where it crashed,if anyone had been on that day,which I was. Unfortunately the RAF made a slight slip up in the tracking (not really there fault)
Another report
The twin engine airplane departed Vienna-Schwechat Airport on a training flight to Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel, West Germany. After 40 minutes into the flight, while cruising at an altitude of 39,000 feet, radio contact was lost with the crew who failed to respond to any ATC calls. The aircraft failed to descend to Hamburg and continued over the Atlantic Ocean. Decision was taken to dispatch a fighter plane and the military crew confirmed that there was no activity and no movement on board once he reached the flying Learjet. After fuel exhausted, both engines stopped and the airplane entered a dive until it crashed in the Atlantic Ocean, about 560 km northwest off Scotland. Few debris were found while the main wreckage disappeared in the sea. All three occupants were killed.
Probable cause: Due to lack of evidences, the exact cause of the accident could not be determined. However, the assumption that the accident was the consequence of an unexpected cabin depressurization was not ruled out, maybe following the failure of a seal or a protection valve.
I remember we were told that a rogue flight was heading towards our airspace epected to route on a straight course likey over the North Sea towards Iceland. it was obviouly on autopilot but had bee in the climb so entered on a continous. The Learjet was tracked across the North Sea by the R Netherlands AF as it approached the Scottish FIR ,43 Sqn or 111 Sqn launched their QRA . As it continued it got to the point that their planned cross over plan failed,they launced a Nimrod from Kinloss to take over from the F-4,but it became fuel critical and had to return to Leuchars but before the Nimrod reached the Learjet ,it nose dived into the Atlantic,so with only a rough idea were it went down, It was a very sad conversation especilly as I was only 21 at the time and Ironically had only lost my Dad 7 months before (but giving me some empathy with her as we were about the same age) |
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Post by graham on Sept 6, 2022 9:28:05 GMT
Thanks for that Michael.
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