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Post by billsamuels on Dec 28, 2023 20:56:35 GMT
Unusual one to end the year. How many of us have seen exotic aircraft never to find out their identity? I haven’t trawled through my old log books, just the photos on my phone. So here’s just a few of those that I missed…  Taken at Delhi Airport in 2020. Lovely Indian AF IL-76.  Same trip, ATR42.  Another IL-76 at Delhi.  BN Islander at Ardmore, New Zealand.  Bunch of stuff at Cairns, Australia.    Got some of these, but missed a few….  One of several unidentied Choppers at the Beijing Aviation Museum.    One of the Beijing Airports overflown.  Another Beijing Airport.  Another from the Beijing Museum.  I need to look this airport up, but it’s in China.  Down near Tucson, Arizona.  Same place.  Same again. There’s probably quite a few more yet to be downloaded from memory cards, but do you have many? Happy New Year folks. All the very best for 2024, the year of my 70th birthday… Bill . |
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Post by davebasing on Dec 29, 2023 10:21:07 GMT
Your Ardmore Islander is ZK-DLA (c/n2131) after being written off in a heavy landing at Okiwi on 25 January 2013. Have a look at -
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Post by davebasing on Dec 29, 2023 10:45:20 GMT
When I was at the Chinese museum there were 4 Mil 8Ts present, three carried serials and the fourth was unmarked except for the national insignia in yellow identical to your picture. Although not read by me, that one is widely reported as serial 50358 but with an unknown c/n. There were two Harbin Z6s (the big blue blunt nosed chopper in your picture) there when I went, neither of which carried a serial. One has never been resolved as far as I know but the other has been identified as serial 26 but again with an unknown c/n. So, if you saw two .... Think I mentioned before, it was a nice day when I was there and for $5 I hopped a Chinese microlight of unknown type for a flight over the museum - and survived!.  04-do by dave tompkins, on Flickr |
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Post by chrisj on Dec 29, 2023 16:04:13 GMT
A very good collection of 'Wants' . There have been several reported visits by groups to museums and airfields / airports in China and maybe a troll through some not so old magazines may help . Or a request on a group such as LAAS ? You never know what may be out there . I passed through Nicosia during late sixties and found about ten or so An2s parked up . I did note some registrations but it was night time . Over the years I had made requests and drew a no response .Just pre Covid I again tried . One well established group told me I was wrong and these did not exist but a person in UK provided a copy of the An2 production list and a contact . The contact was/is Scramble's 'Soviet' man . He had a contact in the east and my findings was new information of a type they knew about but had no identities . Further work was required but Mr Putin put paid to that . It goes to show that someone out there knows things and sometimes the information can be forthcoming but it can take time ! Best of luck . Chrisj
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Post by billsamuels on Dec 29, 2023 17:35:52 GMT
Afternoon folks,
Well Dave, you never cease to amaze me with your knowledge… Not only a serial but a video to boot…
I didn’t realise or expect anyone would be able to identify any of the subjects, just thought it would be an interesting topic to raise.
But thanks guys, it’s very much appreciated.
Perhaps there might be others in our group who have similar outstanding items.
Bill
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Post by davebasing on Dec 29, 2023 18:43:06 GMT
Can hopefully add a couple more to your 'ones that got away'. The two EMB135s in your shot at Cairns are in the livery of JetGo who folded back in 2018. They had 3 Embraers but sold one in 2015 leaving VH-JGR and VH-ZJE. Both were stored at Cairns after JetGo failed, JGR (which I saw at Dallas-Ft Worth in 2011 as Continental's N16999) from July 2018 until November 2020 when it departed for further storage and onward sale at Melbourne; and ZJE from March 2018 until it was finally broken up at Cairns in 2020. So these must be your two if the dates fit with your visit.
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Post by billsamuels on Dec 29, 2023 19:52:55 GMT
Can hopefully add a couple more to your 'ones that got away'. The two EMB135s in your shot at Cairns are in the livery of JetGo who folded back in 2018. They had 3 Embraers but sold one in 2015 leaving VH-JGR and VH-ZJE. Both were stored at Cairns after JetGo failed, JGR (which I saw at Dallas-Ft Worth in 2011 as Continental's N16999) from July 2018 until November 2020 when it departed for further storage and onward sale at Melbourne; and ZJE from March 2018 until it was finally broken up at Cairns in 2020. So these must be your two if the dates fit with your visit. Cheers Dave, Much appreciated mate. Bill |
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Post by chrisj on Jan 3, 2024 16:28:04 GMT
This could possibly be placed in the 'Request for registrations' but equally here . So .. Way back in the dark ages when I lived in Northolt , we would infrequently go to Southall for some shopping . Usual way was a change of bus at the Uxbridge Road . Here we went on a trolley bus ! That is electric and pre all this climate stuff . Just as we would get to Southall the road would cross the Grand Union Cannel . Right next to the cannel was a large Territorial Army Centre . It had a large area from some building(s) to the road . Parked on the cannel side was the fuselage of a transport aircraft . I recall it being silver or unpainted metal . When I tried to obtain an identity through Air Britain they said it had been RN317 Horsa and the TA unit was 1562 ( Southall) Co. RASC . Now had it been a Horsa it would not of been metal nor silver so I question the given information .
Some years later , possibly mid to late sixties , I was told of a Walrus fuselage in the yard of the old Ealing Film Studios . I went there and looking over the fence could see the aircraft in two pieces stored vertically . Nose clearly showing the circular position for someone to deal with any mooring and the rear minus fin was next to it . A bit of detective work came up with it being one of two frames which were broken up at Redhill around 1952 . Either HD929/G-AKIA or HD925/G-AKJE . I took a photo or two and did ask the RAFM if they were interested but after looking they felt the condition was too far gone to preserve . So I suspect it has been destroyed or just left to rot , pity ! A very long shot , but does anyone have any thoughts on these please ? Chrisj
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Post by davebasing on Jan 3, 2024 17:06:52 GMT
Hi Chris. I remember the Walrus cut in half and sitting with the forward fuselage facing upwards and the aft section beside it pointing with the tail end upwards. Advice at the time was that it was serial HD920. Sadly I was told that it had apparently subsequently been burnt. Grew up in Chiswick so it was fairly local. Never saw your bits in Southall but 562 Parachute Sq of the Royal Corps of Transport were based there so that may be the unit you mention as 1562?
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Post by Jeff on Jan 3, 2024 19:19:52 GMT
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Post by chrisj on Jan 3, 2024 20:40:46 GMT
Thanks Dave and Jeff . In the still on Key's page , the Walrus certainly looks in better health than when I saw it . My photo shows two fuselage sections pointing up but lower parts are hidden by rubbish and a green house ! I must get back onto those Key pages as I remember some photos of with drawn frames at Brawdy and other locations . Thanks again . Chris
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Post by Jeff on Jan 4, 2024 9:43:21 GMT
Thanks Dave and Jeff . In the still on Key's page , the Walrus certainly looks in better health than when I saw it . My photo shows two fuselage sections pointing up but lower parts are hidden by rubbish and a green house ! I must get back onto those Key pages as I remember some photos of with drawn frames at Brawdy and other locations . Thanks again . Chris I'm just wondering if they used the walrus for studio shot, I've never seen the film so don't know if there were any closeups |
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Post by graham on Jan 4, 2024 13:04:02 GMT
Can't shed any light really Chris other than both HD929 and HD925, according to PlaneBase were scrapped at Redhill in 1952
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Post by chrisj on Jan 4, 2024 15:09:05 GMT
Yes , I too have that about the Redhill demise of both . It will remain a mystery as so often happens . As we seem to have an endless flow of days of grim weather down here , I have spent time looking at old magazines and so on . It must of been a wonderful time during the late forties and early fifties with many withdrawn aircraft dotted about the country . Some waiting for the chop and others a new life . I have seen photos taken at the Beehive at Gatwick where there are many such aircraft which went on to overseas operators . Many were never recorded which is a pity . Chrisj
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