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Post by keefyboy on Jan 13, 2024 12:14:53 GMT
Here's one for the nostalgia buffs - a few familiar frames here!
707's
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Post by Jeff on Jan 14, 2024 10:36:07 GMT
Great video, there's been a lot of 707 stuff appearing on utube just lately, one thing I have noticed was the prototype has the reg under the wing, only time I've ever seen that on and American jet.
Another video I watched last night was about a supersonic DC8, there was a lot of colour video of 707s and Comets in it as well. Something I didn't know was that the DC8 was in competition with the 707 for the USAF tanker role, it seems the DC8 was a far superior airframe but the 707 was chosen, anybody know why they went for the 707?
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Post by graham on Jan 14, 2024 11:00:07 GMT
Just guessing but probably price? I remember seeing N70700 at the Dulles show in early June 1972. What became of the Lufty 707 at Hamburg?
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Post by davebasing on Jan 14, 2024 11:09:35 GMT
It was a question of ready availability. Lockheed also bid for the contract with a proposed rear engined tanker (the L-193) and were originally awarded the contract in 1955. This decision was however overturned in favour of the 707 which was already an existing type and would be available some years before either the Lockheed or DC8 proposals. Even when the contract was transferred to Boeing the Air Force left the door open for the L-193 and initially only ordered a fraction of the tankers it needed pending development of the L-193. In the event the Lockheed L-193 never got off the drawing board while the first DC8 did not fly until 1958. The first KC135 was delivered in June 1957.
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Post by davebasing on Jan 14, 2024 11:28:42 GMT
The prototype N70700 which I took when in store at MASDC (as it was then) for the Smithsonian Museum in October 1980  ac 229 by dave tompkins, on Flickr |
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Post by chrisj on Jan 14, 2024 14:03:56 GMT
The Saudi 707 shown could be the one trapped at the old Jeddah airport . I seemed to always land there from the same direction and on the same runway ( they have three parallel runways in that direction . On one occasion I landed on a different runway although normal direction . We flew parallel to a road which had several roundabouts all with aircraft on them . A DC3/C47 on one and a Beech twin on another I recall . Also over the old airport's terminal which had a stranded 707 outside . It was stranded because just about everywhere had been built on . Next time I saw it the wings had been removed . Chrisj
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Post by davebasing on Jan 14, 2024 14:34:31 GMT
Just guessing but probably price? I remember seeing N70700 at the Dulles show in early June 1972. What became of the Lufty 707 at Hamburg? Hi Graham - The 707 D-ABOD was cut up at Hamburg in 2021. I believe the cockpit was saved and I think now lives in Sweden |
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Post by davebasing on Jan 14, 2024 14:55:58 GMT
But one former Lufthansa 707 (D-ABOV) is still preserved. I graphed her as CC-CCG in the storage lot of the Chilean museum in Santiago in 2019.  IMG_5470 by dave tompkins, on Flickr  IMG_5441 by dave tompkins, on Flickr |
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Post by keefyboy on Jan 14, 2024 19:57:58 GMT
Hi Jeff.
That video of the DC8 going supersonic popped up on my YouTube feed but I've not watched it yet. I thought the Convair Coronado (CV990) had a fair bit of speed too. I also thought the VC10 was the fastest trans Atlantic jet(Concorde apart) on scheduled services but I stand to be corrected? The original 707 is now firmly ensconced in the NASM at Dulles which I visited back in 2011.
Regards
Keith
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Post by graham on Jan 17, 2024 6:15:27 GMT
Thanks Dave
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