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Post by graham on Aug 1, 2016 5:13:54 GMT
Seven months down, five to go......
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Post by rh226 on Aug 1, 2016 7:35:35 GMT
And the weather is not good to start the month.
Anyone see the B-52H on its Global Power mission as it refuelled down the Eastern side of the UK (over St. Andrews around 06.10, York around 06.40 and N Norfolk around 07.00) before going off NE towards Denmark??
Fingers crossed that the cloudbase remains above 6000ft for the Tunisian AF C-130 due into Brize Norton at 12.00BST (assuming it doesn't cancel).
(credit FC).
EDIT:- "TUN12" the Tunisian C-130J-30 Z21122/TS-MTL [02B26B] routed in over Hastings and not over BHD. Due out tomorrow sometime.
Was drizzling when "CLEAN32" KC-135R 63-8032 [AE048B] plus 4 x Indiana ANG A-10Cs went straight over the top of me routing from Marham down to Yeovilton and Lands End en route to Lajes (Azores) from Sliac (Slovakia). Heard them at 13.46BST. Only consolation is that I may not have needed two of the A-10s. I didn't need the KC-135 anyway.
FURTHER EDIT:- The B-52 routed back West along the English Channel.
I needed all four of the overflying A-10Cs - 78-0692/IN, 79-0095/IN "122 FW", 80-0214/IN, 80-0243/IN.
The other four Indiana ANG A-10Cs went into Lakenheath as their tanker had "broken" - 80-0152 "TABOR71", 80-0217 "TABOR72", 81-0944 "TABOR73", 80-0192 "TABOR74". Supposedly due out to Lajes tomorrow, but we shall see. Again, the weather forecast is not good.
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Post by rugbyref on Aug 1, 2016 18:12:23 GMT
Yup, 5 months to go until our stopover in Hong Kong en route to Sydney (using the new Cathay A350 route from LGW).
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Post by jerryrowe on Aug 1, 2016 21:42:46 GMT
If this is summer, roll on autumn! Did mange to make G-ZBKL inbound LHR on the BA196 from IAH, but A7-BDD Qatar's latest (and last) 788, the only one I need, has just gone overhead on the QR16 but well above the cloud.
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Post by rh226 on Aug 2, 2016 16:42:11 GMT
The weather has done it to me again!!! Cloudbase at silly level and on/off drizzle of varying intensity. Aerial traffic could only be heard but not seen.
First, at 08.34BST, "KANZA97" KC-135R 62-3564 [AE07BC] went over me routing Yeovilton - Brize Norton en route to Mildenhall. Unusual to be using a 22ARW (McConnell AFB, Wichita, Ks) callsign instead of an "RCHxxx" one. Also, one of the not that many KC-135Rs that I need.
Then, at 17.25BST, the inevitable happened. "CLEAN31" KC-135R 60-0364 [AE0663] plus the 4 x Indiana ANG A-10Cs from Lakenheath went over me routing Brize Norton down to Yeovilton and out over Lands End en route to Lajes. to jointhe four from yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 12:40:28 GMT
Finally got off the mark this morning just before six when TNT 747 OO-THA was seen heading west not trailing- bit of a hit and a miss day weather wise one minute overcast and the next with the odd patch of blue and very windy- albeit not raining for a change. Avion Express A320 LY-VEV was a welcome change on this afternoons Vuelling flight into LPL -downside not needed. (Back on 27) Also todays 787 in MAN is N802AN again not needed. When the weather is bad I try not to look at FlightRadar or Planefinder etc as it would depress me too much to se what I was missing. Happy Spotting Bob
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Post by davidallum on Aug 3, 2016 13:46:53 GMT
Finally got off the mark this morning just before six when TNT 747 OO-THA was seen heading west not trailing- bit of a hit and a miss day weather wise one minute overcast and the next with the odd patch of blue and very windy- albeit not raining for a change. Avion Express A320 LY-VEV was a welcome change on this afternoons Vuelling flight into LPL -downside not needed. (Back on 27) Also todays 787 in MAN is N802AN again not needed. When the weather is bad I try not to look at FlightRadar or Planefinder etc as it would depress me too much to se what I was missing. Happy Spotting Bob Know what you mean Bob,today is the first day that FR24 has been on since July 29th.
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Post by Jeff on Aug 3, 2016 15:46:43 GMT
Out of shannon o/h farnborough and heading to dvr at 16.40 was F WTBA, only had callsign on sbs FR24 says a319..... Couldnt id for def as it hid in the clouds :-(
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 16:10:12 GMT
Hi Jeff,
The only A319 that has used that test reg is c/n 949, which is HC-COF of TAME, and is leased from AFS Investmets LLC, interestingly the leased has been reported as terminated recently,
and your machine looks like he is currently heading for Hamburg, so if he is returning off lease, then Shannon would make sense as either a> a fuel stop or b> post lease maintenance,
so possibly this is your bird.....
Cheers
Adrian
Edit:- Just watching him at @1732, still on course for Hamburg, which is interesting because between 11/06/2012 and 21/11/2012, this was also leased to Air Hamburg as D-AHHE, it then spent a month stored at WOE, before going to Stewreib as OE-ISR, before HC-COF of TAME, Full Reg's are :-
D-AVYG - N707UW - B-6155 - F-WTBA - D-AHHE - OE-ISR - HC-COF
F-WTBA has not been used by any other Airbus 320 family member
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Post by Jeff on Aug 3, 2016 16:37:25 GMT
Thanks adrian, shame i didnt see it doh
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Post by davidallum on Aug 3, 2016 17:17:50 GMT
The weather has done it's best to thwart the hobby today but some how I still managed to log 4:
EI-FJD B737 Norwegian C-FKSV B787-9 Air Canada N50TC BBJ D-AXGD A330 Eurowings
Decent haul but could have been so much more.
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Post by keithh on Aug 3, 2016 18:45:43 GMT
1/8 LHR A6-EUD A380 Reading, back at work M-ICKY PC12 3/8 LHR A6-EUB A380 Let's hope weather improves for the rest of the month!
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Post by billsamuels on Aug 3, 2016 21:01:56 GMT
Hi Jeff, The only A319 that has used that test reg is c/n 949, which is HC-COF of TAME, and is leased from AFS Investmets LLC, interestingly the leased has been reported as terminated recently, and your machine looks like he is currently heading for Hamburg, so if he is returning off lease, then Shannon would make sense as either a> a fuel stop or b> post lease maintenance, so possibly this is your bird..... Cheers Adrian Edit:- Just watching him at @1732, still on course for Hamburg, which is interesting because between 11/06/2012 and 21/11/2012, this was also leased to Air Hamburg as D-AHHE, it then spent a month stored at WOE, before going to Stewreib as OE-ISR, before HC-COF of TAME, Full Reg's are :- D-AVYG - N707UW - B-6155 - F-WTBA - D-AHHE - OE-ISR - HC-COF F-WTBA has not been used by any other Airbus 320 family member Hi Adrian, I was fortunate enough to see the A319 when it passed me at Deepcut... Is it safe to assume that F-WTBA is the correct reg? Appreciate all your help mate. Cheers. Bill
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Post by rh226 on Aug 3, 2016 22:06:46 GMT
Interesting military overflights today (I didn't see any of them) - in case anyone saw them and wondered:-
"NOW335A" RNorAF C-130J-30 5607 [478114] over Elstree at 08.24BST routed down to SAM and then down to the Nantes area. It returned later crossing the coast by the Witterings just before 11.30BST.
"RCH5727" and "RCH5765" HC-130Js 11-5727/FT [AE4E18] and 11-5765/FT [AE54C6] from 71RQS at Moody AFB, Ga both routed Westbound along UL9. Apparently were visual N of Woking at around 13.50BST.
"Bahrein" Bahrein Defence Force RJ85 A9C-BDF [894011] went into Cardiff (landed 17.39BST). May go on to Exeter tomorrow??
"RSF189" Saudi AF C-130H 1622 [71025C] departed EMA around 18.00BST and routed (as normal) down airways exiting the coast at Worthing.
"CNV3766" C-130T 165313/JW [AE03EA] routed Eastbound STU (at 20.00BST) > DVR en route to Stuttgart.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 5:32:46 GMT
Morning Bill,
A bit more digging reveals that :-
F-WTBA flew Montpellier, France departing 11:13 local - Shannon, Eire arriving 13:52 local on the 03/08/2016, then flew Shannon, Eire departing 15:34 local, arriving Sonderburg, Denmark at 19:10 local, also on the 03/08/2016. ( he flew straight over the top of Hamburg, so nearly right ! )
F-WTBA was used by c/n 949 when it was (Briefly) owned by AerCap Finance / Airbus Finance, the only other use of this Registration on an Airbus was by A340-115 c/n 015 ( which was scrapped in 2011 / 2012) - but has also been used by one Of Aercap's B737's in the past
Yesterdays F-WTBA is quoted as being an A319 owned by Airbus Finance, and as the regn has not been re-allocated to another A318 / 319 / 320 / 321 I would say yes.
Also FR24 quoted c/n 949
so 99.9 % sure
Cheers
Adrian
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Post by davebasing on Aug 4, 2016 7:25:49 GMT
Hi Bill Only problem with c/n 949 HC-COF is that Flight Data 24 has it flying domestic services in Ecuador yesterday still as HC-COF. I actually flew in her back in February when taking a trip to to the Galapagos & the Amazon rain forest. Here she is arriving in the small airport at Coca to fly my wife & I back to Quito.
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Post by davebasing on Aug 4, 2016 7:52:19 GMT
Bill
F-WTBA also reported yesterday supposedly visually confirmed as an all white ATR 72 c/n 1069??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 7:58:21 GMT
Which begs the question, which Airbus did Bill see ?
I think it unlikely that Bill could confuse an A319 with an ATR-72.....
Cheers
Adrian
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Post by davebasing on Aug 4, 2016 8:10:21 GMT
Which begs the question, which Airbus did Bill see ? I think it unlikely that Bill could confuse an A319 with an ATR-72..... Cheers Adrian Probably the exposure to the sun during his excellent mammoth stint in the car park at Blackbushe on Saturday, coupled with having Mal with him all day. Enough to frazzle even the hardiest of brains!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 8:36:42 GMT
I searched everywhere for F-WTBA being either an Airbus or at least some form of single aisle jet, that photo of F-WTBA has only just emerged, otherwise it would of shown on Google yesterday and at 5am this morning, I should have checked HC-COF's recent movement's and that would have ruled out c/n 949 straight away, but having read that it had come of lease, did not see the need to do so, still the previous flight of Montpellier - Shannon would make sense, as Montepellier perform quite a bit of ATR checks....
And it just goes to prove that FR24 is not as reliable as they would wish...
Cheers
Adrian
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Post by billsamuels on Aug 4, 2016 10:41:07 GMT
Morning Chaps,
Well I think this will go down as a mispole... It was a slight case of confusion as I was in the process of trying to swop my gas/electricity supplier... Bear with me... So I'm on the phone in deep discussion, looked at my SBS which had F-WTBA tracking to the east of me and going away... I go into the conservatory, with bins, and see this thing high up with the bins in one hand and the phone in the other... So proceed back to study to complete the call....
Then, when I'm looking in my ADU database it comes up with an A340, which I knew it wasn't one of those!!! Then the mystery begins....
So I think I'm not going to count this one, but you'll be happy to know that by threatening to leave my current supplier, they have miraculously found a cheaper tariff to the tone of £50 per month cheaper than the existing one!!! £600 off my utilities a year!!! quite unbelievable...
i'll the ATR some other time...
Appreciate all the efforts to straighten this one out.
Cheers.
Bill
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Post by davidallum on Aug 4, 2016 15:58:50 GMT
Three in the book so far today:
C-GUFR A330 Air Transat G-ZBKL B787-9 British Airways C-FGHZ B787-9 Air Canada
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 17:42:59 GMT
Evening Gentlemen,
Due to my mistakes of the last 24 hr's I feel it only correct that I should resign from this forum, I say this because anybody asking for a Reg / Hex code tie up will take my answer with a large pinch of salt. I used the best information available to me to answer a query, and I was wrong, personally I should have double checked this information, but I did not, this is entirely my fault for which I apolgise. I will presently be sending Graham A PM to say please remove my account details. I would take this opportunity to Thank all aboard and issue the following warning, if you are taking reg's from FR24 have another SVR running at the same time such as Planepotter or ADS-Exchange, do not take FR24's word for it.........
Cheers
Adrian
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Post by graham on Aug 4, 2016 18:15:47 GMT
Adrian, please don't leave us. No one is bothered mate, we all make mis poles or incorrect IDs occasionally, no need to hang yourself for it!! We value each and every member here, we have a great spirit here on AFA and I for one ( and I know I speak for Jeff & Bill) would be very sorry to see you go. Think again please...;0)
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Post by Jeff on Aug 4, 2016 18:23:40 GMT
I agree with graham, those elusive overflights are all part of the fun, please reconsider
Jeff
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Post by rh226 on Aug 4, 2016 19:18:45 GMT
Adrian,
We all make mistakes: so don't be so hard on yourself. You've apologised and to me, though I wasn't directly involved, that should be the end of the matter. Please retract your decision and stay with us, as your contributions are always welcome.
Kind Regards,
Bob
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To all,
As Adrian has said, it pays to have more than one "virtual radar application" running at the same time - I use PP and ADS-B Exchange. Personally, I wouldn't touch FR24 with the proverbial barge pole. But remember that the information displayed is only as good as the look-up database that is employed. If that database is inaccurate or contains unverified data, misidentification problems will occur.
Example on the military side from yesterday, flight "GAF W07" was identified by ADS-B Exchange as a UH-1D.......but plotting at 25000ft and travelling at 270kts!!!!! It was actually a Tornado (which reference to "Albert's website" revealed, and eyeball at Lossiemouth confirmed). Obviously, someone had uploaded data to the central database that had been confused between two aircraft and had not been verified. Also, German military hexcodes are a nightmare as the Tornados, EF.2000s and Transalls all have several hexcodes assigned to each airframe and they vary them for more or less each flight!!! The helicopters though run in sequential blocks.
On the civilian side, errors will be very hard to pick up as there is such a huge number of airframes that can be present. As my interest is confined to the (considerably less in numbers) military, it is somewhat easier to see quite a few obvious errors.
Personally, should I want a civilian hex tie-up, I use only www.airframes.org/ and/or www.gatwickaviationsociety.org.uk/modeslookup.asp. I will use nowhere else.
For UK military, I use www.dtvmovements.co.uk/Info/UKModeSMil.htm and for other countries I use "Albert's website" www.live-military-mode-s.eu/. These, I think, are the best two to use.
Sorry about the lecture, everyone - but I think that it was necessary.
Regards to all,
Bob
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Post by zz on Aug 4, 2016 19:45:03 GMT
Adrian
There can't be many of us who haven't made a similar mistake! And if you check the ballooning thread, you'll see how I've been planning on going to Bristol this weekend , for balloons that are happening next weekend! Fortunately Filair pointed it out, otherwise I'd have been cursing my mate for not picking me up... All I'm saying is, we all make mistakes, and on forums we do it publicly.
But on this forum, nobody blames anyone and people just appreciate the fact that you tried to help!
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Post by davebasing on Aug 4, 2016 22:08:18 GMT
Adrian - no need to even think of leaving us at all. You were trying to help Bill and used what info was available at the time and clearly took some time to trawl through to try to find him an answer. The Flight Data info only became available the next day and I only noticed it as I'd flown in the A319 in question earlier this year and was intrigued to know what it was now doing in Europe. Other well known sites also reported this as the 319 at the time of Bill's query.
All that would be achieved by your leaving would be for the rest of us to lose a member who is prepared to try and assist others with their queries. None of us get it right all the time (but like this time we get there between us in the end), the good thing about this site is the people who are prepared to try to assist.
Dave
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Post by graham on Aug 5, 2016 5:50:20 GMT
Morning all, well, Adrian has decided to leave us which is a great shame. He sent me a PM which seems to indicate that he had no issues with anyone here on AFA, but with some members on another aviation group from which he has also left. I did ask him again via the PMs between us not to leave but he has gone I'm afraid and the forum is the worse for it. Maybe he will reconsider after a cooling off period and rejoin us? Let's hope so.
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